I hope the Witch Hunter sucks.

[Bishop]

No, seriously, I do. Game-mechanics-wise, I mean. Because if the class should happen to end up not sucking, we're going to have Witch Hunters United battling against Chaos, rather than Empire. At least as far as the current buzz, it seems evident that there will be more people playing Witch Hunters than all of the other empire classes combined.

So, since I've wanted to play one since the orginal pen-and-paper RPG I never got to try, I'm hoping Witch Hunters end up fairly gimped in the balance between the classes. That way most gamers will gravitate towards some other class, and I can be a gun-toting, steel-swinging, hat-wearing, pyromaniac loonie in peace.

[Instant_Karma]

No, seriously, I do. Game-mechanics-wise, I mean. Because if the class should happen to end up not sucking, we're going to have Witch Hunters United battling against Chaos, rather than Empire. At least as far as the current buzz, it seems evident that there will be more people playing Witch Hunters than all of the other empire classes combined.

So, since I've wanted to play one since the orginal pen-and-paper RPG I never got to try, I'm hoping Witch Hunters end up fairly gimped in the balance between the classes. That way most gamers will gravitate towards some other class, and I can be a gun-toting, steel-swinging, hat-wearing, pyromaniac loonie in peace.

But if its gimped, then instead you'll be complaining all the time about how it's not fair that you can't go toe to toe against a black orc or Chaos chosen and win, but a bright wizard can. "Becareful what you wish for" yadda yadda yadda, you get the idea.

I hope things can be balanced and frankly I don't care how many Witch Hunters are out there. Hopefully we'll have enough of a variety of skill sets and talents that their won't be a set stanard of Witch Hunters playing the same way which should help with the diversity issue.

[Garthilk]

At least as far as the current buzz, it seems evident that there will be more people playing Witch Hunters than all of the other empire classes combined.The buzz you've heard is inaccurate. In fact, any buzz at this point is inaccurate. I wouldn't judge the popularity of a career based on feedback from people whom don't know anything about the career other than the leather trench coat and pointed hat. Course, that's just common sense. Feel free to form your own wildly speculative opinion.

[Bishop]

But if its gimped, then instead you'll be complaining all the time about how it's not fair that you can't go toe to toe against a black orc or Chaos chosen and win, but a bright wizard can.

No. I will not. Because that would make me a hypocrite. I'll gladly play the class underpowered, but I suspect others will not -- I thought that was the point I was making.

[Instant_Karma]

Eh, so you say now. I highly doubt aynone will be so willing to martyr themselves to an underpowered character.

Plus I bump what Garthilk said.

[Abriael]

The current polls and speculations reflect the opinion of just a very marginal and negligible niche of what will be the game's playerbase. It's probably much more likely that we'll see, for instance, many more knights of the blazing sun than the polls seem to show, considering the appeal that heavy armor has on the average casual player. This is just an example of the fact that, honestly. Making any kind of poll or statistics now is absolutely pointless.

[Bishop]

Eh, so you say now. I highly doubt aynone will be so willing to martyr themselves to an underpowered character.

Thank you for making my point, in a round-about sort of way. Unwarranted sniping at my character aside, you're obviously not one who will stick with the class if it is not "up to par". Or perhaps you simply mean that you will stick with it, but you will be sure to if it is not "fixed"?

Either way, you underscore wonderfully how the population balance will change with the percieved class strength.

Plus I bump what Garthilk said.

Uh, what? The part where he's waving his fatherly "you can't diss it cause you don't know it and polls don't matter"-stick, or the part where he says to feel free to do it anyway?

Obviously, noone can know exactly how the populations will balance before the game is actually live. But that does not make it any less worthy of discussion in my mind -- especially since it has been such a massive issue in games past.

[Vikingkingq]

The buzz you've heard is inaccurate. In fact, any buzz at this point is inaccurate. I wouldn't judge the popularity of a career based on feedback from people whom don't know anything about the career other than the leather trench coat and pointed hat. Course, that's just common sense. Feel free to form your own wildly speculative opinion.

Pointy? Most Witch Hunter hats have flat crowns. Pointy hats are for wizards. They help them burn faster.

[Gharok]

I for one was stunned by the empire class polls. I never would have though the witch hunter would be that popular.
IMO the warrior priest is WAY cooler :cool:

[Artorius Necto]

I totally understand were you are coming from with this, like you i have been a fan of the witch hunter class before the first cancellation of this game years ago, and i hope it wont be a massive overpopulated class, but my fears say it would over populated. Ive actually been having second thoughts about picking witch hunter just because of the afore mention reason. We will just have to wait and see closer to the release date to find the true spread of classes or armys.

[Willstar]

Heh, my mind had been toying with the idea of playing a witch hunter, simply because I love the melee dps type characters. I enjoyed playing rogue on WoW, I liked to play rogue and assassin on Ragnarok Online, though lately I have been playing a hunter and a knight as well.

Anyway, my greatest fear is that this'll turn out like the WoW Night Elf Rogue, vastly overpopulated. Now I'm just waiting to see what elf classes there'll be and I'll prolly play one of those. Perhaps even break my vow to never play a magic character. :p

[Ruinx]

No, seriously, I do. Game-mechanics-wise, I mean. Because if the class should happen to end up not sucking, we're going to have Witch Hunters United battling against Chaos, rather than Empire. At least as far as the current buzz, it seems evident that there will be more people playing Witch Hunters than all of the other empire classes combined.

So, since I've wanted to play one since the orginal pen-and-paper RPG I never got to try, I'm hoping Witch Hunters end up fairly gimped in the balance between the classes. That way most gamers will gravitate towards some other class, and I can be a gun-toting, steel-swinging, hat-wearing, pyromaniac loonie in peace.

I don't think this is a very well-reasoned post.

You say you want the Witch-Hunter to suck, but then you're saying that assuming that the only reason people want to play it is because it's "over-powered". That's where your logic trips over, falls off a cliff, and bounces off the cliffside a few times before exploding in an unlikely ball of flames at the bottom.

The reason people want to play the Witch-Hunter is not that they are overpowered. There is absolutely no reason to expect that they will be. If anything, they'll probably be a little underpowered.

People want to play Witch-Hunters because they're cool.

I'm sorry that you think you were the first one to find them cool, and that you own them, and that only you should be allowed to play them (which is precisely the implication of your post), but you were not, you do not, and you will not be (ooh that's neat!).

This is what will happen if Witch-Hunters suck:

They will still be incredibly popular, but their boards will be FULL OF WHINGING. You will be one of the whingers, because you will be having your handed to you by the very Chaos Zealot you are supposed to burn. TIME AFTER TIME CHAOS ZEALOT WILL "PWN" YOU. Until you are sad. Until your hat doesn't look cool any more. Until you start thinking "I wish Witch-Hunters didn't suck so hard".

Your problem is that you live in a illusory world where gamers make highly rational decision on what to play based on it's power-level. This isn't the MMO world. In the MMO world, most people pick classes because they think they're "kewl", and then they don't immediately quit if they're inferior, they whinge and moan (with good reason) until they get fixed. The more successful the game, the louder the whinge/moan values.

Also, whilst you're extremely eager to dismiss Garth's post about not seeing the whole picture, you're failing to account for the Elves.

The Witch-Hunters may, currently, be the "kewlest" thing in the game. The hat, the outfit, the attitude, the guns, it's very appealling to a certain mindset. However, this mindset has a large cross-over with those who are fans of Dark Elves. Dark Elves for whom no classes have been announced or even hinted at. Dark Elves whom are kewl beyond all mortal reckoning. Dark Elves who have semi-naked women running frenzied at the head of their armies. Dark Elves who have jagged scary weapons and pistol-crossbows and poison. Dark Elves who love pain and scheming and secrets. Dark Elves who wear black.

I know you're scared now. I know you're thinking of desperate solutions do that you can stem this envisioned tidal wave of Witch-Hunters, but think about the Dark Elves. Realize that they appeal to many many of the same people. They will be you salvation, if one is to be had. Not an inferior class. That will just be your annoyance and burden.

[Vikingkingq]

I don't think this is a very well-reasoned post.

You say you want the Witch-Hunter to suck, but then you're saying that assuming that the only reason people want to play it is because it's "over-powered". That's where your logic trips over, falls off a cliff, and bounces off the cliffside a few times before exploding in an unlikely ball of flames at the bottom.

The reason people want to play the Witch-Hunter is not that they are overpowered. There is absolutely no reason to expect that they will be. If anything, they'll probably be a little underpowered.

People want to play Witch-Hunters because they're cool.

I'm sorry that you think you were the first one to find them cool, and that you own them, and that only you should be allowed to play them (which is precisely the implication of your post), but you were not, you do not, and you will not be (ooh that's neat!).

This is what will happen if Witch-Hunters suck:

They will still be incredibly popular, but their boards will be FULL OF WHINGING. You will be one of the whingers, because you will be having your handed to you by the very Chaos Zealot you are supposed to burn. TIME AFTER TIME CHAOS ZEALOT WILL "PWN" YOU. Until you are sad. Until your hat doesn't look cool any more. Until you start thinking "I wish Witch-Hunters didn't suck so hard".

Your problem is that you live in a illusory world where gamers make highly rational decision on what to play based on it's power-level. This isn't the MMO world. In the MMO world, most people pick classes because they think they're "kewl", and then they don't immediately quit if they're inferior, they whinge and moan (with good reason) until they get fixed. The more successful the game, the louder the whinge/moan values.

Also, whilst you're extremely eager to dismiss Garth's post about not seeing the whole picture, you're failing to account for the Elves.

The Witch-Hunters may, currently, be the "kewlest" thing in the game. The hat, the outfit, the attitude, the guns, it's very appealling to a certain mindset. However, this mindset has a large cross-over with those who are fans of Dark Elves. Dark Elves for whom no classes have been announced or even hinted at. Dark Elves whom are kewl beyond all mortal reckoning. Dark Elves who have semi-naked women running frenzied at the head of their armies. Dark Elves who have jagged scary weapons and pistol-crossbows and poison. Dark Elves who love pain and scheming and secrets. Dark Elves who wear black.

I know you're scared now. I know you're thinking of desperate solutions do that you can stem this envisioned tidal wave of Witch-Hunters, but think about the Dark Elves. Realize that they appeal to many many of the same people. They will be you salvation, if one is to be had. Not an inferior class. That will just be your annoyance and burden.

Quoted for Truth. Sacrificing quality for exclusivity is both self-defeating and highly selfish.
Nerfing a class that people want to play because people want to play it strikes me as the kind of snobbish exclusivity of the ultra-fan. The fan whose enjoyment of any medium requires that medium to be small and unpopular so that they can feel superior to the hoi polloi.

I'm not saying that you are, Bishop, but that's the logical extension of your argument.

[SharderBlade]

I don't think this is a very well-reasoned post.

You say you want the Witch-Hunter to suck, but then you're saying that assuming that the only reason people want to play it is because it's "over-powered". That's where your logic trips over, falls off a cliff, and bounces off the cliffside a few times before exploding in an unlikely ball of flames at the bottom.

The reason people want to play the Witch-Hunter is not that they are overpowered. There is absolutely no reason to expect that they will be. If anything, they'll probably be a little underpowered.

People want to play Witch-Hunters because they're cool.

I'm sorry that you think you were the first one to find them cool, and that you own them, and that only you should be allowed to play them (which is precisely the implication of your post), but you were not, you do not, and you will not be (ooh that's neat!).

This is what will happen if Witch-Hunters suck:

They will still be incredibly popular, but their boards will be FULL OF WHINGING. You will be one of the whingers, because you will be having your handed to you by the very Chaos Zealot you are supposed to burn. TIME AFTER TIME CHAOS ZEALOT WILL "PWN" YOU. Until you are sad. Until your hat doesn't look cool any more. Until you start thinking "I wish Witch-Hunters didn't suck so hard".

Your problem is that you live in a illusory world where gamers make highly rational decision on what to play based on it's power-level. This isn't the MMO world. In the MMO world, most people pick classes because they think they're "kewl", and then they don't immediately quit if they're inferior, they whinge and moan (with good reason) until they get fixed. The more successful the game, the louder the whinge/moan values.

Also, whilst you're extremely eager to dismiss Garth's post about not seeing the whole picture, you're failing to account for the Elves.

The Witch-Hunters may, currently, be the "kewlest" thing in the game. The hat, the outfit, the attitude, the guns, it's very appealling to a certain mindset. However, this mindset has a large cross-over with those who are fans of Dark Elves. Dark Elves for whom no classes have been announced or even hinted at. Dark Elves whom are kewl beyond all mortal reckoning. Dark Elves who have semi-naked women running frenzied at the head of their armies. Dark Elves who have jagged scary weapons and pistol-crossbows and poison. Dark Elves who love pain and scheming and secrets. Dark Elves who wear black.

I know you're scared now. I know you're thinking of desperate solutions do that you can stem this envisioned tidal wave of Witch-Hunters, but think about the Dark Elves. Realize that they appeal to many many of the same people. They will be you salvation, if one is to be had. Not an inferior class. That will just be your annoyance and burden.

I was going to flame you at the begininning of your post, but then I read the whole thing and I end up agreeing with you. A lot of times you make good points, but you tend to ruin it by being rude about it.

"The Witch-Hunters may, currently, be the "kewlest" thing in the game. The hat, the outfit, the attitude, the guns, it's very appealling to a certain mindset. However, this mindset has a large cross-over with those who are fans of Dark Elves. Dark Elves for whom no classes have been announced or even hinted at. Dark Elves whom are kewl beyond all mortal reckoning. Dark Elves who have semi-naked women running frenzied at the head of their armies. Dark Elves who have jagged scary weapons and pistol-crossbows and poison. Dark Elves who love pain and scheming and secrets. Dark Elves who wear black."

I actually have no interest what-so-ever in being a dark elves, and this is coming from one of those nubs who saw the witch-hunter's leather hats and said "zomg! I'm being that thingy!"

[Ruinx]

Yeah, let me be clear, I'm not saying "If you like Witch-Hunters, you'll LUUURVE Dark Elves!", I'm just saying that a lot (by no means all) of people who like Witch-Hunters may well like Dark Elves even more, or may like all the other races even more. I suspect that Witch-Hunters appeal to people who aren't really "into" the Empire so much, too, though it's only a suspicion.

[Instant_Karma]

I think Runix stated my sentiments about this post better than I myself did. Course, Bishop assuming that I mearly jump on the band wagon of "most pwning class ever" didn't help.:p

[Illya]

Yeah, let me be clear, I'm not saying "If you like Witch-Hunters, you'll LUUURVE Dark Elves!", I'm just saying that a lot (by no means all) of people who like Witch-Hunters may well like Dark Elves even more, or may like all the other races even more. I suspect that Witch-Hunters appeal to people who aren't really "into" the Empire so much, too, though it's only a suspicion.

Not really. I've been a huge Witch Hunter fan for some five years now, but I also collect Empire minis. I love the entire Empire, it appeals to me. But I see Witch Hunters as something that can only be described as the epitome of the Empire. Meh. I'm too tired to explain.

In any case, whoever said that wanting Witch Hunters to be nerfed so there won't be so many players is selfish, is right. Screw that. I hope they're the most awesome class in the game. I'll be playing one no matter what, but I don't feel like spending my time whining (not whinging, for the love of God) on forums about how nerfed they are.

So let the classes be balanced, and let people choose what they want to play.

[Ruinx]

Not really. I've been a huge Witch Hunter fan for some five years now, but I also collect Empire minis. I love the entire Empire, it appeals to me. But I see Witch Hunters as something that can only be described as the epitome of the Empire. Meh. I'm too tired to explain.

In any case, whoever said that wanting Witch Hunters to be nerfed so there won't be so many players is selfish, is right. Screw that. I hope they're the most awesome class in the game. I'll be playing one no matter what, but I don't feel like spending my time whining (not whinging, for the love of God) on forums about how nerfed they are.

So let the classes be balanced, and let people choose what they want to play.

Whinging is different to whining, American :p

[Accipiter]

Whinging is different to whining, American :p

Silly Brit. Or Canadian. Or Aussie.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
whinge /ʰwɪndʒ, wɪndʒ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hwinj, winj] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used without object), whinged, whing·ing. British and Australian Informal. to complain; whine.

[Ruinx]

Dictionary.com is clearly run by Americans! Hmph!

Seriously, it's a subtle difference. Most English people I know use both whinging and whining in different circumstances. Generally whinging is a bit more, I dunno, snot-nosed and snivelling, and whining is a bit more high-pitched and insistent.

[Accipiter]

Dictionary.com is clearly run by Americans! Hmph!

Seriously, it's a subtle difference. Most English people I know use both whinging and whining in different circumstances. Generally whinging is a bit more, I dunno, snot-nosed and snivelling, and whining is a bit more high-pitched and insistent.

You mean Brits have many words for whining in the same way that Eskimos are said to have many words for snow?

[Illya]

Whinging is different to whining, American :p

American? I'm deeply insulted. I'm Dutch. Dutch. I have nothing to do with America what so ever, thank God for that.

[Ruinx]

You mean Brits have many words for whining in the same way that Eskimos are said to have many words for snow?

Possibly... >.>

I bet the French have more... <.<

Illya - Goodness, forgive me! You speak American English, though, or seem to, given you corrected my Anglicism into an Americanism, which mislead me (most Dutch people I know speak English English, though that's probably a factor of the fact that I meet them in England!).

[Doulos]

back on topic kinda... did someone say Dark elves.... that makes me happy...

Warrior/knight
Sorceress
Witch
Shade/Assassin

those would be my votes....

[Illya]

Illya - Goodness, forgive me! You speak American English, though, or seem to, given you corrected my Anglicism into an Americanism, which mislead me (most Dutch people I know speak English English, though that's probably a factor of the fact that I meet them in England!).

Heh. I don't know why, I've recently been told I also seem to have a slight American accent to my English, which is also kinda scary. :(

Perhaps because I was born in Trinidad & Tobago, and despite the fact that T&T used to be a British colony, the English language there has been somewhat tainted by the Americans nearby? I was, thankfully, born with the Dutch nationality, and moved to the Netherlands at the age of 9.

[Thanius]

There may be a bunch of witch hunters...but eventually I think things will smooth out and there will be a balance in the force. One reason, I know people who will try new stuff but when they see 1000s of others they go to something more unique.

[flickery]

The world doesn't need to end just cuz you died .:?

Career Witch Hunter could be made to take alot of skill in reaction to play, instead of gimping it all .Have you played an Enhancement Shaman in WoW pre TBC ?Before blizz nerfed shamans to hell ,it took very skilled players to be a melee shaman which while lacking viable defense and anti CC they could deal unsurpassed burs t damage by chance .So they had to melee and kite ,get the hit in without getting damaged CLOSE quarters .

Along these lines ,many people didn't choose to be enhancement Shamans cuz they pressumed they were gimped and rather choose the other classes .They were weak when controlled by the average player but when an outstanding player tried the shaman ,the battlefield was levled .

What this post is suggesting ,is that the Witch Hunter class not be a class which the layman would use effectively .Let the class have skills while strong ,have a tedious cooldown and require a specific situation to use [eg certain range ,l know Witch hunters are close combatants this is why its needs skill to apply mid battle].

The popularity of the career is the outlook of the way Witch Hunters operate ,a melee class that has strong attacks with buffing and debuffing skills added the occasional range attack .The act cool outfit doesn't hurt ,afterall its first impression .But when people realize they are just not good playing the Witch Hunter ,they would switch to the classes that suit them .

This point has to be made obvious for this career ,to avoid overpopulation of the same class .Even a mob fight must have effort in it for the Witch Hunter ,however this doesn't mean the class must be gimped .

Tacticians ,go play Archmagus .People who prefer cooperation ,go support .lts how RPGs were made and meant to be ,that is some people play for looks and the Witch Hunter appeals to them so teh dev team could give the other classes some botox ?

[Warmaster tibs]

I love the Witch Hunter and I will cry in a corner for hours if they suck(wich they wont)
and if they do I will hunt down every EAMYTHIC employee and burn them for HERESY!!:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Frostback]

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31891 Poll here states they're all fairly even. WH and WP are ahead by a little bit but not too much.

Good thing this thread is about fact!! Actually that pole isnt even about fact cause no one has even tried any of the classes and might end up hating the one they chose.

[rogue_gamecube]

The Witch Hunter will not suck, and every single one of you that hope this ARE HERETICS! DIE, CHAOS SCUM!




I mean, really? WH's sucking? What other straw-mans will get pulled out before the next newsletter, I wonder :roll:.

8)

[Beren]

I'm continually baffled by the supposed appeal of Witch Hunters.

To me, they're one of the most ridiculous classes out there. The hat is horrible, using a pistol and rapier is weak, their facial hair is laughable... they're generally OLD. I just do not see it. It's hard to think of any class I'd want to play less based on aesthetics.

I suppose the somewhat recently revealed stealth mechanic is a bonus in their favor, which I'll concede, but it's about the only one. They're just completely ridiculous (in a bad way).

[Vargr_the_Unruly]

I'm continually baffled by the supposed appeal of Witch Hunters.

To me, they're one of the most ridiculous classes out there. The hat is horrible, using a pistol and rapier is weak, their facial hair is laughable... they're generally OLD. I just do not see it. It's hard to think of any class I'd want to play less based on aesthetics.

I suppose the somewhat recently revealed stealth mechanic is a bonus in their favor, which I'll concede, but it's about the only one. They're just completely ridiculous (in a bad way).

So presumably we will see you out there on a Witch Hunter on the first day then.

[rogue_gamecube]

So presumably we will see you out there on a Witch Hunter on the first day then.
It's like the "I'm not , seriously, not , how many times do I have to say I'm not ." clause. The more times you deny it, the more we can tell you're in denial about it.

I'd like to see him talk bad about Witch Hunters in the 14th-16th century. They'd love him.

8-)

[WastedTrojan]

WH's wont be any more numerous than the bright wizard and warrior priest. Something tells me there will be a pretty big shortage of knights.

[Kiant]

Ive got the feeling that the majority of rogue kiddies from WoW will end up trying WH, thinking there the wtf pwn class or something like that. Just hope the mechanic about the class is quite deep, hopefully putting off the rogue kiddies :P

[Beren]

So presumably we will see you out there on a Witch Hunter on the first day then.

Nope. I'll be on my Marauder dismembering you. Cheers.

[Vargr_the_Unruly]

Nope. I'll be on my Marauder dismembering you. Cheers.

Good luck seeing my stealthed bum, Chucklehead.

[Frostback]

Nope. I'll be on my Marauder dismembering you. Cheers.

We'll see how that works out for you! WH were made for searching out and destroying chaos.

[Bargad]

I, as a Chaos Chosen, ALSO hope the Witch Hunter sucks.

More Hats for my trophy cases.

[Velryn]

I have an idea, anyone considering rolling a Shadow Warrior, instead roll a WH.

[Nordland Infantry]

Sounds pretty selfish to me

[Shameso]

Shadow warrior was one of my other choices to choose. Right now im on the sides of witch hunter and shadow warrior.

[Warbear]

The current polls and speculations reflect the opinion of just a very marginal and negligible niche of what will be the game's playerbase. It's probably much more likely that we'll see, for instance, many more knights of the blazing sun than the polls seem to show, considering the appeal that heavy armor has on the average casual player. This is just an example of the fact that, honestly. Making any kind of poll or statistics now is absolutely pointless.


Wasn't it just a month ago, when the very same speculation was geared torwards the BW. And iirc, back in Jan, when i joined, the majority of the people seemed interested in the Marauder. Don't fret just yet mate, you still have plenty of time and unreleased info to change the path of the bandwagon. For instance, the last HE class, and the Black Guard.

[DunRaven]

Oh dear.. oh dear.. *sigh* It does seem selfish and self-defeating (especially in a game like WAR where victory really does mean something to the Hero.. and the Realm)

Instead of simply wishing your favoured class to be 'gimped' to avoid the masses and popularity (i.e. of NElf Rogues, 'Huntards' etc.. apologies for the WoW comparison ;) )

Why not use some imagination and wish for the other classes to bring something different, cool and effective. This gives EVERYONE more options and potential for fun, right? After all we all are wanting to play this game and noone should have a monopoly on a specific class.

And I have faith in EA/Mythic that they are doing this - from what little we have seen so far (yes, we need to know more.. and actually play a fully released game before making such widespread assumptions and judgements about which classes will be most 'popular')

[lnquisitor]

A Witch Hunter preview and why Order will lose. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cYRI5jJZi8&feature=related) You can even get a sneak peek of Dwarfs.


Death to the HAT!!

[Hive]

How many times can a thread be necro'ed?

[Millergenuine]

I skipped a bunch of posts so hopefully this wasn't already mentioned.

I do feel for the OP, although I don't want the class to suck. I've always been one to preach balance, so that knowledge of you class more so than your opponent will win you fight. I hate rock paper scissors.

I've played a WoW rogue for many years now, lets use him for example.
-Game starts. Rogues are awesome, especially UD rogues with a 30 second WOTF.
-Rogues are nerfed into oblivion. No utility in raids, some classes can even out dps you. So why be a rogue?
-Rogues get buffed, and buffed again. Now Shadowstep is amazing for PvP, and Rogues are once again flavor of the month. In comes the mass influx of new rogues.

So even if Witch Hunters start off a bit OP, as with most MMO's there will be adjustments. If they even adjust things half as much as Blizzard did we'll see a lot of the more popular classes yoyo for a bit before they settle into somewhat of a steady pattern.

Like Pallys in WoW. They've steadily sucked for years now!

EDIT: LoL! I should pay attention to post dates.

[Gratefulking]

No, seriously, I do. Game-mechanics-wise, I mean. Because if the class should happen to end up not sucking, we're going to have Witch Hunters United battling against Chaos, rather than Empire. At least as far as the current buzz, it seems evident that there will be more people playing Witch Hunters than all of the other empire classes combined.

So, since I've wanted to play one since the orginal pen-and-paper RPG I never got to try, I'm hoping Witch Hunters end up fairly gimped in the balance between the classes. That way most gamers will gravitate towards some other class, and I can be a gun-toting, steel-swinging, hat-wearing, pyromaniac loonie in peace.

That is one of the most selfish things I have read on these forums. The game is open for anyone to play, so they can choose their class. Any was, if Witch Hunters do suck, then you will get owned in any RvR fight and thus having no fun. So be careful what you wish for.

[RephoriK]

No, seriously, I do. Game-mechanics-wise, I mean. Because if the class should happen to end up not sucking, we're going to have Witch Hunters United battling against Chaos, rather than Empire. At least as far as the current buzz, it seems evident that there will be more people playing Witch Hunters than all of the other empire classes combined.

So, since I've wanted to play one since the orginal pen-and-paper RPG I never got to try, I'm hoping Witch Hunters end up fairly gimped in the balance between the classes. That way most gamers will gravitate towards some other class, and I can be a gun-toting, steel-swinging, hat-wearing, pyromaniac loonie in peace.

Blasphemy! Besides... for every witch hunter there will be 3 lumbering warriors of chaos to deal with. Death to the heretics. Praise to the hat.

[Cedia]

Trenchcoat, pointed hat, flintlock, stealth.

Yep. Can we say night-elf-rogue popular?

[Warmaster tibs]

Trenchcoat, pointed hat, flintlock, stealth.

Yep. Can we say night-elf-rogue popular?


Another WOW referance....HERESY!!!

[Titus Legion]

Even if the Witch Hunter is popular... so what? Would you rather see an army of wizards running around or an army of men with swords and pistols blazing? Its like the Free Company units from the TT :)

[Polikula]

How many times can a thread be necro'ed?

however many times thus far, plus one

[Jiub]

Well from what i've seen Warrior Priests are very popular too, so it won't be just witch hunter. Though I do think that Witch Hunter will be one of the most populated classes in the game. They just have that "cool" factor that a lot of people like, kind of like Rogues in WoW.

[Dakkar]

Well from what i've seen Warrior Priests are very popular too, so it won't be just witch hunter. Though I do think that Witch Hunter will be one of the most populated classes in the game. They just have that "cool" factor that a lot of people like, kind of like Rogues in WoW.


The Warrior Priest is popular among those who are already participating in the game. A nasty fact concerning support characters is they are highly favored in the beginning but their popularity will decline largely due to the skill that is expected of you. In many situations the fate of the group is in a support players hands and if you don't get that rez off correctly you me be hearing alot of hate from your party members/guild mates. Now this may change due to the Warrior Priests mechanic but I doubt it because the greater population of MMOs prefer straight DPS or in your face harassing classes.

On the other hand Witch Hunters have long term appeal due to their appearance and simple play style. MDPS is very very very easy to play but very hard to play well, so younger less experienced players tend to gravitate towards DPS classes due to their simplicity, appearance, and "uber damage skillz."