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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:07 PM   #361
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:09 PM   #362
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How does the custom face thing work then? Oh my goodness, they'll be giving them to the SE pre-orderers next.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:10 PM   #363
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I paid more for a CE because of the ingame bonuses, ob and headstart.

but it seems now i paid more only for a miniature and a comic? thank you ea mythic for being such assholes.
maybe i can still cancel my CE and pre-order a standard one.

And yes, you all can mock us, CE buyers, for being tricked by this lamme marketing.

yeah, marketing, you wait CE sold out, then announce same benefits for the normal one, raise you preorder sells by 500% and laugh at the CE buyers. ^^
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:11 PM   #364
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Yeez guys, you all sound like grumpy and greedy old farts. You still get exactly what was told in your CE, nothing more nothing less. If you bought it just for Open Beta, then you bought it for the wrong reason. Maybe if it had been Closed Beta it would have made sense, but Open beta is exactly what it sounds like.

CE got a "guaranteed" spot in Open Beta, and you still got that. Nothing said anywhere that spots wouldn't be handed out to normal pre orders, their friends and their grandma. And neither did it say anywhere how long the beta would be.

If you plan on cancelling your CE then do so. I will happily take it from you, I value the stuff you get in it and not only the Open Beta spot. You still get Head Start, and it hasn't been promised anywhere else as far as I know.
You are completely wrong. MBJ has stated on several occasions that their "open" beta is a closed beta without NDA.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:11 PM   #365
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So, when is a fair amount of time for them to respond to this. I mean, the newsletter is Delayed(hurray), so now we just sit and tear each other apart?
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:11 PM   #366
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I paid more for a CE because of the ingame bonuses, ob and headstart.

but it seems now i paid more only for a miniature and a comic? thank you ea mythic for being such assholes.
maybe i can still cancel my CE and pre-order a standard one.

And yes, you all can mock us, CE buyers, for being tricked by this lamme marketing.

yeah, marketing, you wait CE sold out, then announce same benefits for the normal one, raise you preorder sells by 500% and laugh at the CE buyers. ^^
read up, they only get access to the beta and headstart
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:12 PM   #367
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So, when is a fair amount of time for them to respond to this. I mean, the newsletter is Delayed(hurray), so now we just sit and tear each other apart?
they prolly wanted 1 more weekend of testing before putting out the big stuff
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:12 PM   #368
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I paid more for a CE because of the ingame bonuses, ob and headstart.

but it seems now i paid more only for a miniature and a comic? thank you ea mythic for being such assholes.
maybe i can still cancel my CE and pre-order a standard one.

And yes, you all can mock us, CE buyers, for being tricked by this lamme marketing.

yeah, marketing, you wait CE sold out, then announce same benefits for the normal one, raise you preorder sells by 500% and laugh at the CE buyers. ^^
Exactly,

This wouldn't be a big deal at all if they would have announced what was included in the SE when they announced the CE.

Good marketing strat though, assuming they can deal with the hate.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:13 PM   #369
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So much nerd rage and panic.

Where's that OMG/ONOEZ gif with the guys running around with their arms raised when you need it?
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:14 PM   #370
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would only mock ya for buying the CE just to be in a open beta.

and if you cant see that the artbook, comic and the miniature make up for the more money spent, then i pity you. who cares anyway if there gonna be 10 or 10000 in open beta/head start. the more the merrier.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:15 PM   #371
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im building a greenskin army with my counts so the miniature is nice but half the reason i went for the CE was early access and now i feel a bit betrayed by this 9 day AND the fact anybody gets in now
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Standard Edition pre-orderers do not get Early Access.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:16 PM   #373
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THE SKY IS FALLING! i think everyone needs to calm down and wait for somthing from mythic before jumping to conclusions.
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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:17 PM   #374
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Folks,

Okay, I'm a bit confused here. I've gone through our website, GOA's website and our press releases and based on what I've read there and here, let's start off with some basics:

1) Characters will not roll over from the OB. Not a chance, prayer, etc. OB is for primarily the load testing of the game and not for people to level up their toons and then bring them over to the Head Start or into the game. Whoever is giving out their information is wrong.

2) When we put up the websites for the CE, we separated the CE from the CE Pre-order program on purpose. Nowhere in the CE Pre-order program does it say that *only* CE Pre-orders will get the HS and the OB. There's even a line that says "All pre-order customers will receive one of the following items..." It also says a number of times in the same section the words "pre-order customers" and not "CE pre-order customers." We weren't trying to be clever, cute, devious, etc. but to simply covey the basics of the program. Apparently we may have needed to be even clearer than I thought we were being.

3) In terms of the length of OB, the final length of it is still to be determined. Don't expect a 30 day OB or anything like that. We've never promised, hinted or even inferred that OB was going to be a long process, that's what our Beta is for. If we need a longer OB, then it will be longer. If a shorter one will suffice, that is fine by us.

4) In terms of the Head Start, the length of the Head Start is still being discussed which is why we haven't posted anyway how long it will last.

5) In terms of the Head Start as it pertains to the CE POs and the SE POs, our intention is that the length of the Head Start will not be the same. While we have never said that they would or wouldn't be the same, we do want to give some extra time to the CE POs.

6) We also hope to make an announcement sometime before we go into OB about another bonus thing for our CE POs customers. I can't go into detail about it yet but it will also be seen as a nice little extra for the CE POs.

7) In Europe, the plan is for the OB to invite the CE POs customers but the SE POs will not get a special invitation.

8 In terms of the whole "OMG, I wouldn't have bought the CE if I could get the HS/OB time with the regular PO" thing. If that's how you feel, no problem at all. Cancel your CE then and pre-order the regular game. If all the special items, librams, quests, heads, art book, graphic novel and miniature aren't worth the difference in price, either cancel your order or don't pre-order the CE (if you can still find a copy). Our CE has more useful in-game goodness than any other MMORPG. And the fact that the CE contains a very special miniature (that will not be reissued by GW and/or EA) along with all the other stuff, makes it, in our opinion, the best CE of any MMORPG to date. The fact that it is essentially sold out in NA and almost there in Europe this far before launch means that the players agree. And yes, the items/quests/etc. that are listed in the CE section of our website (as opposed to the Pre-Order Program) part of the webwite, will still only be for the CE and not the SE.

9) In terms of why we didn't announce this sooner, well, we thought we were clear when we posted all the information. Apparently not, at least for some of you and that's why I'm here.

10) In terms of the OB being for CE pre-orders only, well, that's a bit of nonsense. I've posted enough and I'seen enough people talk about the OB to know that most of you knew that OB wasn't for the CE people only.

11) In terms of the OB, not everyone gets in now. It will still be limited access but both CE/SE Pre-order customers get a guaranteed slot as do our current beta testers.

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Unread 07-31-2008, 01:17 PM   #375
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Wow, that's a bunch of "We thought you'd figure this out"/ read between the lines explanation.

A little too late though.

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