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Old 11-02-2009, 09:47 PM   #61
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Gorgeras: they tried both of those, but people kept moaning. Problem being there isn't the friendliness and love and enthusiasm for the game here to offbalance the criticism. When it's all moaning all the time it just makes it seem like what's the point of doing things to appease you, because all you're gonna do is moan about what they've done. Case in point: this. They make a bold step towards trying to regain population (using both this and the "come back to war 10 day free " thing) and there's not even "well at least they're trying" or "good attempt but X,Y,Z", its all just moaning.

I mean heck, getting a solid base of players even just playing for free in T1 would be a step in the right direction for the game. Getting them to keep going is the next step.
I think most people are wondering why they are doing this. What was wrong with the 10 day free trial that they need to change it to F2P?
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:38 AM   #62
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This move actually makes a lot of sense as people that have played for long time feel this is the best pvp experience they have had - for example I went to Aion and resubbed here after a very short while.

Whatever Mythic is planning with this should bring more long-term subscribers or at least keep T1 alive on older servers.
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:22 AM   #63
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The newsletter sent out by GOA mentions it too, so im pretty sure GOA is preparing for it aswell.

It's looking good for us to be rolling out the endless trial at the same time as Mythic do

Not too long now!
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Old 11-03-2009, 05:43 AM   #64
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It's looking good for us to be rolling out the endless trial at the same time as Mythic do

Not too long now!
gonna start rolling out the PTS event rewards and other goodies mythic run in the states too?

fantastic...
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Old 11-03-2009, 06:42 AM   #65
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The argument about "twinks" steamrolling new ppl is invalid.

I was "new" player on trial yesterday.

Today it's me who's steamrolling.

Takes like 1-2 days to pimp your char so it's not a problem.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:09 AM   #66
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No. You wont get purple tallies, you wont get blue pots, you wont get renown pots. This stuff makes a HUGE difference.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:23 AM   #67
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No. You wont get purple tallies, you wont get blue pots, you wont get renown pots. This stuff makes a HUGE difference.

I dont have any of those and I dont have any problems with "being farmed" as well.


I got my gemmed devastator set + blue items from PQ's and I'm doing very well.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:37 AM   #68
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Yeah, cause the endless trial is not in place yet
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:31 AM   #69
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Yeah, cause the endless trial is not in place yet
But there's many people who got running subscriptions in T-1.

And they can transfer gold and gems from their main chars.

Yet I still dont see any "TWINK OWNAGE".
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:59 AM   #70
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trust me, 6 twinked out guildies on their alts can pretty much decimate everyone else in tier 1, without support from the zerg too.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:02 AM   #71
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trust me, 6 twinked out guildies on their alts can pretty much decimate everyone else in tier 1, without support from the zerg too.

Yeah but what endless trial have to do with that?
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:12 AM   #72
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Yeah but what endless trial have to do with that?
More incentive to unsub and only play in T1.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:14 AM   #73
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More incentive to unsub and only play in T1.
This.

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Old 11-03-2009, 10:05 AM   #74
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trust me, 6 twinked out guildies on their alts can pretty much decimate everyone else in tier 1, without support from the zerg too.
but 12 people who are not twinked but working together can kill 12 twinks

I vote we keep speculating on this.
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:10 AM   #75
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In answer to Spirit, if Mythic ever demonstrated a better than basic level of responsiveness to criticism, I didn't notice it. They were told Scenarios were still a problem, they were told the RvR lakes were too small and that splitting servers between 'Normal' and 'Open-RvR' was going to be a mistake and Open-RvR should have been normal: there should have been no artificial seperation between PvP, PvE and RvR. The people that would have stuck with this game wanted war, the people who drift from MMO to MMO looking for the next WoW whilst saying how sick they are of WoW managed to get their way and make the game very bland with soft edges.

I pointed out at the time that Mythic's attitude to criticism was atrocious and found it pretty obvious they were given great comfort by forum attack-dogs acting like white knights for them. What I pointed out was that there was this bizzarre disconnect where 'black and white' thinking like mine was unacceptable, simplistic and reactionary, but when re-framed into the terms 'positive' and 'negative' was perfectly fine. Criticism, ALL criticism was lumped as 'negative' and therefore bad or needing to be balanced with 'positive' things. No one seemed to appreciate the difference between complaint, criticism and outright ranting: the idea that there were degrees of dispute was washed away under a tide of 'positive-or-negative'.

It got to breaking point and I politely asked for an apology because personal lies were said about me by a GOA poster. I recieved none and even after thoroughly pointing out the error, it wasn't acknowledged.
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