Why you aren't getting healed: a WP's explanation

[thecactusman17]

I see about three or four threads up here asking why WPs aren't healing everyone. It's a fair question. Let me answer it.

1: We're too low a level
Warrior Priests get some incredible healing options, but they get them near-universally at late stages of each tier. We don't get the AOE heal until right about 20, for example. This means that a Warrior Priest near the beginning of each tier won't manage the same health regen abilities as say, an Archmage or a Rune Priest until they are nearly finished helping you and your buddies out in that area. And obviously, this results in a shortage of good healing WPs in each tier.

2: You're the problem
Sorry, but it's true. Warrior Priests can keep themselves alive forever in solo, but in a group we need you guys together and focused. We can keep you and your buddies healed almost as well as we can ourselves, but not if you are spread out (even just a little bit). This is doubly true if you expect us to be in the front line.

3: You're mistaking us for tanks
We stay alive forever in PVE, but in PVP and RVR situations we'll be taken down by a dedicated MDPS or tank character if we don't have help. This sort of causes problems when you're the only Rez option in the group.

4: You want abilities we aren't specced for
Want that sweet debuff or crazy tank-enabling group heal? Better find another Priest.

5: We are combat AND healers, not one or the other
So if you want that hyper healing h4x BS, go find a stunty or a pointy-ear.

6: We say tomato, you say zucchini
Our prayer abilities, which are usually the be-all end-all group buffs, can only be active one-at-a-time on any given character. If you need your armor buffed or your DPS increased, we need you to tell us or we're going to choose on our own based on what we are paired with. Otherwise, you need to get into a different group with a different WP. I'd personally recommend that there shouldn't be more than one WP in a group for warbands/scenarios, and those groups should be organized by purpose.

[Cecillia]

Originally Posted by thecactusman17

I see about three or four threads up here asking why WPs aren't healing everyone. It's a fair question. Let me answer it.

1: We're too low a level
Warrior Priests get some incredible healing options, but they get them near-universally at late stages of each tier. We don't get the AOE heal until right about 20, for example. This means that a Warrior Priest near the beginning of each tier won't manage the same health regen abilities as say, an Archmage or a Rune Priest until they are nearly finished helping you and your buddies out in that area. And obviously, this results in a shortage of good healing WPs in each tier.

2: You're the problem
Sorry, but it's true. Warrior Priests can keep themselves alive forever in solo, but in a group we need you guys together and focused. We can keep you and your buddies healed almost as well as we can ourselves, but not if you are spread out (even just a little bit). This is doubly true if you expect us to be in the front line.

3: You're mistaking us for tanks
We stay alive forever in PVE, but in PVP and RVR situations we'll be taken down by a dedicated MDPS or tank character if we don't have help. This sort of causes problems when you're the only Rez option in the group.

4: You want abilities we aren't specced for
Want that sweet debuff or crazy tank-enabling group heal? Better find another Priest.

5: We are combat AND healers, not one or the other
So if you want that hyper healing h4x BS, go find a stunty or a pointy-ear.

6: We say tomato, you say zucchini
Our prayer abilities, which are usually the be-all end-all group buffs, can only be active one-at-a-time on any given character. If you need your armor buffed or your DPS increased, we need you to tell us or we're going to choose on our own based on what we are paired with. Otherwise, you need to get into a different group with a different WP. I'd personally recommend that there shouldn't be more than one WP in a group for warbands/scenarios, and those groups should be organized by purpose.

/signed

This is like an Order seminar on Warrior Priests.

[Wray]

Great post, i completely agree

I would also add:

7) We Cant- We are the only healer that doesn't use AP to heal, are healing is on a completely separate mechanic. That is great for us and you because like the energizer bunny we keep going and going. However, that is also our downfall and yours, if you and your buddies get hurt so fast that i we go all out healbot our healing pool points drops like a rock. We CAN keep you and your buds up through reasonable FF, but not for long...then we are tapped for a bit.

[Damage]

8. RF runs out... Rather fast, especially if the WP in question is not actively meleeing. If you see a WP on their knees, don't expect a heal right away. They are replenishing RF, it's not an instant thing. RF does not naturally regen in combat (until the book regen buff).

[thecactusman17]

Originally Posted by Cecillia

/signed

This is like an Order seminar on Warrior Priests.

Thanks, glad I could be of service.

As for the RF mechanic, I think that if you are running out of RF, you can generally reexamine your playing style and fit it to the situation. Use a few less Divine Assaults for example, I find that 90% of the time I'm low on RF it was because I was using this too often without enough Fists/Weights/Smites/Strikes/Castigations to regain the lost RF. DA is a great ability and an excellent choice for offseting your lumps, but it's also a huge RF drain. Unless you are flanking an enemy or hitting their back, it's very likely that neither of your target are getting the full dose of it anyway. I've realized that especially in a non-DPS situation, the attack can be dropped in favor of something like Divine Strike and while your personal DPS will go down mildly, you'll end up giving out a lot more health over the long run to the group and wasting a lot less RF.

[Mirio]

9.) don't feel like it

[Nolan1654]

lol giving people reason why you wont heal i got one and i will tell the truth i'm a hybrid i can do whatever i want if i want to go wrath and wreck people and heal myself to keep myself alive in pvp and watch you all die i don't care i'm going to do it.

[Rozerick]

Originally Posted by Nolan1654

lol giving people reason why you wont heal i got one and i will tell the truth i'm a hybrid i can do whatever i want if i want to go wrath and wreck people and heal myself to keep myself alive in pvp and watch you all die i don't care i'm going to do it.

Whateva, Whateva, I do what I want!

[Rainbowmonkey]

1.Salv Priest - you might get heals

2.Grace priest - heals with melee, stay near his defensive target to get the aoe healz

3.Wrath priest- no heals 4 u

[Johari]

10. You aren't doing your job

Srsly, its a tank, let it go unless you've established he can lay down serious hurt.

[Gear]

11. You're overextended and/or your positioning sucks

[Ainianu]

12: check combat log, chances are you was getting healed

[Sycon]

13. I am probably dead, because Destruction noticed me while our tanks did not.

[Ravzar]

Yea people have to understand that WPs can do ALOT of damage full wrath specced. The single target DPS rivals that of an MDPS class. However this also means the only healing they can do is self healing + perhaps a few hots here and there and maybe a res. Basically limited healing with a 20% debuff (in lieu of doing so much damage with the devine fury tactic).

This is the choice of the WP. Many people say if the WP constantly healed a WL then they would be better off. However you could also say the WL should have been a healer and not a WL as a WP should have been salv and not wrath. It is personal choice. You always arn't going to have a healer too. With a lack of all healers in a scenario group you better hope you have a wrath priest rather than a WL or WH. They have increased survivabilty due to healing themselves and can still output a lot of damage. Go watch youtube videos of the kind of burst damage they can put out.

WP are MDPS and even though they are a healer archtype people still need to recognise that some people wish to be a self healing MDPS and not a healer. Fair enough if WPs had light armour then perhaps they should not go full DPS but they have medium armour just like the WL.

[someone2040]

14.We're rezzing somebody - complain again in 6 seconds after we're done.