1 day ban?

[Einhander]

what's wrong with staying on even ground? if you need an advantage to be competitive, maybe this isn't the game for you. you have plenty of tools to fight with already.

regardless of what server you rolled on, it's commonly known that roof camping in an exploit. i'm glad the csr handled it so fast.

[johnnyr]

Hmph.......

[mistere]

I wonder if by being on a roof is it easy to use line of sight and distance as your ally??

While i applaud the method. We all know he who holds the high ground has the advantage. Using the roof to either be untagetable or unreachable with attacks would be my first option in guessing why they gave u the one day sack.

Question could you jump on the roof from the ground next to the house? or did you have to climb a cliff above and drop down? There are some houses in the nordland first RVR area where most of the houses are scaleable from the ground..
I think if you could jump on the roof from the ground then ya u got a grounds for appeal of the ban but if you had to do something else.. well.. hrm. ya..

[Spink]

If you have to Wall Jump or the means to access the roof is not obviously accessible then it is considered an exploit.

I want a SS of this rock though.

[Spink]

Originally Posted by mistere

Question could you jump on the roof from the ground next to the house? or did you have to climb a cliff above and drop down? There are some houses in the nordland first RVR area where most of the houses are scaleable from the ground..
I think if you could jump on the roof from the ground then ya u got a grounds for appeal of the ban but if you had to do something else.. well.. hrm. ya..

The houses in Nordenwatch scenario require "wall jumping" and are actually an exploit fyi.

[Grymyr]

Originally Posted by [LEFT

[FONT=serif]Artillary[/FONT][/left];1578128]most rooftop camping is considered camping if you are in a place that is very [FONT=serif]inaccessable[/FONT] by normal means. The Op stated they simply jumped up on the roof. It would be nice to see the [FONT=serif]offical respond[/FONT] to this.

i [FONT=serif]don't [/FONT]think they would admit to having used an [FONT=serif]exploit [/FONT]to get there

edit - spellcheck messed up the post :P

[Modri]

Originally Posted by Einhander

regardless of what server you rolled on, it's commonly known that roof camping in an exploit.

This. Rooftop camping is almost a universal MMO exploit. And as Bull wrote, "Normally you just get a warning." With that sentiment it almost promotes people to break the rules...after all, if you could break a law once and get away with it...wouldn't you?

Most of us come from other MMORPGs where rooftop camping is an exploit, so perhaps Mythic has decided that we've had plenty of warnings.

[Grimmroth]

I'm sorry, but, ummmm....owned!

I do think it was a bit harsh and a warning would have been appropriate. However, if you're a CSR on launch day you probably would have few patience for BS as well.

[Awake]

Originally Posted by baggiez

There was no game exploit to climb onto the roof, we simply jumped onto it.

Either you are extremely naive, or you know that playing from roof tops is not playing as intended....so you're lucky you only have a 1 day ban.

[Spink]

Originally Posted by Modri

Most of us come from other MMORPGs where rooftop camping is an exploit, so perhaps Mythic has decided that we've had plenty of warnings.

Actually that isn't completely true. In WoW in TBC you can rooftop camp certain area's because of flying mounts. I talked to a GM about this. Blizzard seems to draw the line though when I MC people and let the guards kill them for me.

[Modri]

Originally Posted by Spink

Actually that isn't completely true. In WoW in TBC you can rooftop camp certain area's because of flying mounts. I talked to a GM about this. Blizzard seems to draw the line though when I MC people and let the guards kill them for me.

Pre-TBC it was an exploit, and the only reason it's not considered now is because they've given guards ranged attacks to knock you off buildings. There was a viable pvp solution + the guards had countermeasures to rooftop camping so they excused it in Outlands.

[Qatol]

Think outside the box people. The issue is not explicitly "roof" or "not roof."

The game is CLEARLY designed with very easily accessible *locations* which provide you HIGH ground to participate in combat from. Whether it's the ledges in the Gates of Ekrund or natural terrain in RVR areas.

I myself have used high ground on caster/ranged attackers so far in WAR. It's logical, makes sense, and good tactics.

One of those locations was a roof in Nordland, which I did not need to wall jump to get on top of. Quite easy to ONE HOP jump on to. Maybe not as obvious as the half broken keep walls up by the Fortress.

The issue in this specific case does however have much more to do with using the high ground in an NPC camp where guards could not reach you. That is a no brainer invitation for banhammer action.

[baggiez]

Originally Posted by Awake

Either you are extremely naive, or you know that playing from roof tops is not playing as intended....so you're lucky you only have a 1 day ban.

Consider me naive then.

The place we were ported to was nothing special, it was merely a large rock overlooking the RvR area at the top of Nordland. You can reach there by foot, as Bull did, and was also banned.

Jumping onto the roof we were on offered no unfair advantage other than a vantage point over the camp. We fell off the roof a number of times and nothing else happened - we weren't attacked by the guards around the house on the ground or on the roof, so it made no difference regards exploiting guards attacking us.

[Alosh]

I agree with the GM , being in a RVR server doesn't give people permission to exploit geometry / terrain-related bugs to nuke people from seemingly inaccessible location or vantage point, if anything I believe the OP got off easy.

[Crazy Eddie]

Some clarification on this would be nice.

I've been fighting with and against people on roofs the last few days, mostly in RvR in Norland. seemed to be a good strategy position, and it isn't a situation where roof people can see down and kill but the people on ground can't shoot back. There is line of site both ways, the advantage is just the vision and being more hidden.

Although if it is one of those straw roof top houses, you should fall through and break your leg.